This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Talk more openly about how none of these people give a fuck about protecting kids, and just want to make life shitty for everyone including them grab power.

    Point out bad faith and don’t let it be about anything else, until it actually is. We can’t get anywhere because nobody’s actually dealing with the actual situation, which is people lying publicly.

    Stop going along with that shit. Every time you talk about the fake issue, you’re helping them by pretending they’re telling the truth when they aren’t.

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    19 days ago

    Even if kids see porn the lessons they learn are directly a result of how their parents approach the topic with them. Public education can’t functionally provide useful sex ed due to politics.

    I guess if you can blame your kids for breaking the law you never have to have “the talk” with them.

  • Guitarfun@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    I’m so fucking sick of losing my rights to protect other people’s kids. I don’t have any fucking kids. Why don’t they apply their idiotic rules to those that do and leave the rest of us be.

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      19 days ago

      It is not about the children, nor their parents. Redirect your anger towards the perpetrators, not towards the scapegoats…

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        I have no anger towards children or parents in general. I just think it’s the parent’s responsibility to monitor their kids not the government’s. Thus, the only people who should be affected by rediculous rules and laws that “protect children” are people who have children. Plus, there are plenty and religious and right wing parents who support shit like this.

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          I have 2 kids, and I can’t agree more. My kids have PCs with Linux, I control and monitor everything they do in them, and teach them to use technology responsibly. That’s my job, not any government’s.

          I keep saying this. People have kids, but then don’t want the responsibility that carries with it.

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            Very true, more parents should be like you. Unfortunately, I’ve known many parents who are completely fucking neglectful and when their kid fucks up or gets caught doing something they’re not supposed to they look for anyone or anything besides themselves to blame.

            I’ve only known one person who I could honestly say was a good parent. She sacrificed everything to give her 2 sons a great life. She did everything and only put a reasonable amount of responsibility on her kids to help out. She didn’t date or go out, she sacrificed her own needs and basically was always working and active in her kids life. One of her son’s was autistic and needed a lot of extra attention and care and the other turned out to be the most responsible and well adjusted dude I’ve ever known. I wish more parents were like her.

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              Dude, that was my mom, and with 4 kids. I believe that my brother and I, even more so than my 2 sisters, are the type of parents we are because of how my mom raised us. And I got beat regularly on suspicion alone (but I was always suspicious, so there’s that) by her, and today, I could not be more grateful of the mom God gave us. My kids have never been even spanked, no so much as a slap on the wrist, and they go insane when I tell them about how we were raised.

              My mom knew every single one of our friends and their parents, and they kept regular communication over the phone. It really took a village to raise a kid 🤣

          • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            18 days ago

            Linux

            I control and monitor everything they do in them

            Some software recommendations? I mean, I don’t have kids, but I like Linux and it doesn’t hurt to know where to perhaps point someone.
            So far I only seen Veyon in action, but only for monitoring and remote control of multiple PCs, which probably doesn’t fit home environment.

    • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      Keep watching this bit, so you dont focus on the other bit… which will be to attack end to end encryption in message apps. ie you must put a back door in, so we can see who is saying what, whenever we want.

      This labour government, makes me want tories back. Thats how fucking bad they are.

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      Also, give up your rights for the kids, but don’t ask for any justice towards the royal pedophile prince, that’s bad.

      Also, no more free school lunches, think of the children.

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      18 days ago

      Who is voting for these people?

      I have a feeling that this is another example of the ruling class doing whatever it wants regardless of what the working class wants.

      Our representatives do not represent us.

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      19 days ago

      Because it’s all an excuse to eliminate all privacy. The empire doesn’t survive if the workers are allowed to communicate freely.

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        I know. If they really cared about protecting kids they could force ISPs to sell a whitelisted or blacklisted “Family” service. They could even go further into insanity and force parents to only use that service until their kids turn 18. They could track kids based on their school registration and a forced Microsoft account and/or Gmail/Apple account to ensure that they only ever connect to a safe network and put the responsibility on parents to monitor their kids activity outside of their home.

        They don’t want to protect kids they want to take away our rights and privacy and as an added bonus make it harder to access porn so that fewer people will use it in the hope that more people have kids.

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          Bullshit, ISPs are not responsible for kids either. That’s the parents’ job, not any company’ or government’.

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            I agree completely. I was giving a rediculously extreme example of a way they could actually try to protect kids from porn if that really was their goal.

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      18 days ago

      Because we’re fine with kids not having rights, but when anyone else gets mildly screwed by regulation like this we get angry. Great. How about we did something about it before it started affecting us?

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      I’m a parent and I’m sick of it too. It’s so incredibly easy to monitor your kid today as modern parental control system literally do most of the work for you. Also you can just talk and be honest with your kids - 12-16 year olds are pretty smart contrary to what some want you to think.

      Literally no one likes this except the bottom of the barrel brain washed idiots. I’m not a conspiracist but I meet other parents and while I’m not based in the UK, porn access was never an issue for any parent so this just reeks of propaganda.

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        Seriously, they build parental controls into pretty much all modern devices and there’s plenty of 3rd party software for added functionality and customization. The tools are there for parents. All they have to do is enable and configure them.

        I think people who support this shit and other other laws that strip our rights away are virtue signaling, neglectful/lazy, or like you said completely brainwashed. I think that those in power want to slowly work towards banning porn completely and not just in the UK. I’ve said it elsewhere, but politicians and rich assholes like Elon Musk are worried about birthrates falling and this is just one of many tactics to try to get people to have more kids.

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          The 3rd party apps cost max 100$ a year and does almost everything for you (with plenty of good free 1st party options like Google Family Link). All you have to do is review the alerts and configure screen time and you still let your kids retain good amount of privacy. It’s insane how easy it is these days so there are no excuses for any parent, period.

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    19 days ago

    I guess it’s just too late for all those children that viewed porn. The piles of their dead bodies must be enormous!

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      19 days ago

      So SSH tunneling it is

      That is until encryption is outlawed altogether making the internet truly a horrible place to be

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        That is until encryption is outlawed

        Like all things that are prohibited it will just go underground.

        So long as two computers are able to talk to one an other it will be possible to encrypt that traffic>

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    I’m getting to the point where I’d rather see csam legalized than this shit. (Keep reading)

    Think about it: csam will happen, period. I’m not world’s best computer engineer but even Incan build something that embeds data like text or images in other files in ways that cannot be detected. I can build basic but effective encryption that will be hard enough to crack. I can find ways to exchange files outside the internet, hell, do sneakernet

    And kids watching porn online? They’ll have their buddies who have libraries that will be copied. A single USB drive can contain days of porn videos and you can’t stop that either

    Then there are these laws that “are to protect children” which makes me just outright want to vomit. You take victims of child pornography and use them for your political gain, for your power. You are almost worse than pedophiles. At least pedophiles harm only one child, you harm all of them you sack of fucking shit.

    And no, of course I don’t want child pornography legalized, of course not by what is the solution?

    These assholes have been at it for decades now and they play the long game. They can lose every year and come back next year. They only have to win once and they move on to he next good thing they can destroy.

    So what can we actually really seriously do to stop this?

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      We had hardcore magazines that circulated back in the days before easy internet. Guess the last time children didn’t have access was probably in the 18th century or so.

      Guess the next step is controlling all chat groups, emails and cloud spaces to “avoid children exploiting these”…

  • chrislowles@lemmy.zip
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    Either introduce legislation that enforces standardized parental controls for parents to monitor or shut the fuck up.

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      19 days ago

      I agree, using saas services is a curse.

      If you don’t self host your goon llm she’s a prostitute

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    18 days ago

    The theme throughout my entire life is more and more control. I can’t even go from point A to point B in my city without being recorded every step of the way.

    Starting to look like a Big Brother future.

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      The thing that annoys me the most about it (well, aside from the massive invasion of civil liberties and general dystopian behaviour) is that we don’t even get any of the fringe benefits of it. By that I mean, if I contact the government because I need some information about myself (recent examples: vaccine history, polling information, National Insurance query etc.) they act as if they’ve never been contacted by a person before and seem to immediately go into a panic and send you in a big loop of Other People Who Might Have It, with the end goal seeming to be “nobody knows where it is, let’s just hope they give up and stop asking.”

      Like if the government must insist on tracking every single thing I do and say and look at and place I go to, the least they could do is actually have that info to hand so I can use it too. It seems the more they track us, the less capable they are of actually doing anything useful with that information.

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        Does the government actually own all this information about us though, or is it all outsourced with various private companies?