This is essentially gaslighting. Almost every time I saw a reply that was so out of line toxic was from hexbear. Ex: “disgusting capitalist bootlicker. Kys.” under a post saying we should vote for Biden. I can go find these actual words on the post that was titled “get out and vote!” with an image that said “not voting is a vote for trump” if you want.
Voting for a genocidal imperialist warmonger isn’t leftist, so it makes sense that leftists oppose that. I’m not gaslighting, you’re kinda proving my point, it’s the leftism that’s the issue.
The overwhelming majority of the time people have issues with Hexbear, it’s the leftism.
This is the only thing I am responding to. Almost every comment on the defederation from hexbear thread said it was because of toxicity, not ideology. If a vegan says to someone “kys carnist, crawl into a hole and die,” and gets banned, they didn’t get banned for being vegan.
Considering the sh.itjust.works user that made that thread in the first place is an incredibly toxic person that runs an anti-communist drama community, is a Zionist, etc, something tells me that the people claiming it’s toxic are ones that had strong political disagreements to begin with.
That may be true in some part, though I think people on Hexbear tend to conflate any criticism of their personal takes on leftism as an attack on leftism as a whole. However, in this case he did specify the “vocal” aspect of Hexbear. So I think you’re just being a little oversensitive.
I can’t say I agree with there being anything particularly out of the norm with Hexbear beyond their leftism, so when people describe them as “almost completely unhinged” in particular, that sets off red flags.
can’t say I agree with there being anything particularly out of the norm with Hexbear beyond their leftism
Eh… Imo they tend to be very small tent about their leftism. Anything that runs against the popular grain can get you blocked or get you told you’re a dirty lib.
To different degrees… Hexbear is particularly bad.
What sets Hex apart is the leftism.
Lol, I’m a socialist… I have a problem with Hexbear. They would much rather dunk on people than engage in dialogue and welcome people into the community.
Hexbear has obviously had issues with this to the point where the mod team has had to remove forums and put out warning to their own community to stop sexism and transphobia.
You’re just conflating any criticism of the community as criticism of leftism, even when it’s coming from people on the left. You know, the thing that stated this whole conversation.
Hexbear takes transphobia and sexism far more seriously than most other instances, you’re acting like sexism and transphobia is a prominent issue on Hexbear. Hexbear can be quick to dogpile, but that’s true here on this very thread as well from Lemmy.worlders (or at least attempts). I’m indeed identifying the core issue percieved with Hexbear as the leftism itself, the strict adherance to Marxism and anarchism.
Hexbear takes transphobia and sexism far more seriously than most other instances
I disagree… When the mods handed out temporary bans for people people being sexist there were people calling them counterrevolutionary.
you’re acting like sexism and transphobia is a prominent issue on Hexbear. Hexbear
It’s a prominent issue on most all of lemmy
Hexbear can be quick to dogpile, but that’s true here on this very thread as well from Lemmy.worlders
Yeah… Lemmy.world is trash. Not exactly a place I would like to compare a place I like too.
core issue percieved with Hexbear as the leftism itself
And I would say that can be true even in most cases, but we aren’t talking about most cases. The accusation is that you are deflecting valid criticism by conflating all criticism against Hexbear as a general criticism against leftism. You know…the thing you continue to do.
strict adherance to Marxism and anarchism.
Lol, anarchist get dogpiled on Hexbear constantly.
If you can’t engage in honest discourse then I don’t think this is going anywhere. Which is another problem with people on Hexbear and sometimes .ML, people are so set on “winning” an argument they utilize logical fallacies by rote.
I mean…they didn’t call “leftist” unhinged, they specified a specific group.
Hexbear does not equate to all leftist, and leftism does not equate to Hexbear.
The overwhelming majority of the time people have issues with Hexbear, it’s the leftism.
This is essentially gaslighting. Almost every time I saw a reply that was so out of line toxic was from hexbear. Ex: “disgusting capitalist bootlicker. Kys.” under a post saying we should vote for Biden. I can go find these actual words on the post that was titled “get out and vote!” with an image that said “not voting is a vote for trump” if you want.
Voting for a genocidal imperialist warmonger isn’t leftist, so it makes sense that leftists oppose that. I’m not gaslighting, you’re kinda proving my point, it’s the leftism that’s the issue.
This is the only thing I am responding to. Almost every comment on the defederation from hexbear thread said it was because of toxicity, not ideology. If a vegan says to someone “kys carnist, crawl into a hole and die,” and gets banned, they didn’t get banned for being vegan.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/4281207
For anyone who actually cares to look at all the people discussing their negative experiences with hexbear users.
Bonus meme: my identical comment made by someone else on the instance: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/2928583
Considering the sh.itjust.works user that made that thread in the first place is an incredibly toxic person that runs an anti-communist drama community, is a Zionist, etc, something tells me that the people claiming it’s toxic are ones that had strong political disagreements to begin with.
That may be true in some part, though I think people on Hexbear tend to conflate any criticism of their personal takes on leftism as an attack on leftism as a whole. However, in this case he did specify the “vocal” aspect of Hexbear. So I think you’re just being a little oversensitive.
I can’t say I agree with there being anything particularly out of the norm with Hexbear beyond their leftism, so when people describe them as “almost completely unhinged” in particular, that sets off red flags.
Eh… Imo they tend to be very small tent about their leftism. Anything that runs against the popular grain can get you blocked or get you told you’re a dirty lib.
That’s true of all groups, though, hsving a relatively cohesive range of acceptable opinions. What sets Hex apart is the leftism.
To different degrees… Hexbear is particularly bad.
Lol, I’m a socialist… I have a problem with Hexbear. They would much rather dunk on people than engage in dialogue and welcome people into the community.
Hexbear has obviously had issues with this to the point where the mod team has had to remove forums and put out warning to their own community to stop sexism and transphobia.
You’re just conflating any criticism of the community as criticism of leftism, even when it’s coming from people on the left. You know, the thing that stated this whole conversation.
Hexbear takes transphobia and sexism far more seriously than most other instances, you’re acting like sexism and transphobia is a prominent issue on Hexbear. Hexbear can be quick to dogpile, but that’s true here on this very thread as well from Lemmy.worlders (or at least attempts). I’m indeed identifying the core issue percieved with Hexbear as the leftism itself, the strict adherance to Marxism and anarchism.
I disagree… When the mods handed out temporary bans for people people being sexist there were people calling them counterrevolutionary.
It’s a prominent issue on most all of lemmy
Yeah… Lemmy.world is trash. Not exactly a place I would like to compare a place I like too.
And I would say that can be true even in most cases, but we aren’t talking about most cases. The accusation is that you are deflecting valid criticism by conflating all criticism against Hexbear as a general criticism against leftism. You know…the thing you continue to do.
Lol, anarchist get dogpiled on Hexbear constantly.
If you can’t engage in honest discourse then I don’t think this is going anywhere. Which is another problem with people on Hexbear and sometimes .ML, people are so set on “winning” an argument they utilize logical fallacies by rote.
Have a good one.