Honest question: I see a lot of people here use their mobile phones as a computer platform. I have a general uneasiness about doing so. Not throwing any shade whatsoever, I just feel there is too much out of my control on a mobile phone, for me to trust it more than I do. My general policy is not to use my phone as a mobile computing platform even tho I have a VPN installed and use Firefox as a browser.
My local network for instance. There is one pipe in and out. I can easily see what is coming in and what’s going out and I can control that with the granularity of a gnat’s ass. I know what my software is doing or not doing. I can allow or disallow anything I want. On a mobile phone, I feel that the control I have on my PC is not equal to the control I have on my phone.
How have you come to terms with what you can’t control on your mobile phone?
What do you do when you leave the house?
Touch grass? Not OP, but when I’m out of the house, it’s because I need to do something, so I’m barely on my phone except for navigation, the occasional text/call, and paying for stuff. Otherwise, I use my laptop most of the time (at home and at work).
On occasion, I do leave the compound, but it’s usually to get staples I don’t grow/produce on the farm. Rarely does that process need a mobile computing platform. (I guess that’s what you’re asking)
I definitely agree with you on this. My pet theory is that phones have been getting uncomfortably big, at least from my perspective, since the average consumer is expecting it to serve as a computing and productivity platform, while all I want is a nice little digital Swiss army knife. I’m only logged into my messaging apps and personal email, and don’t expect to do any sort of “productivity” on my phone. When my friends and colleagues assume I’m logged in to this-or-that on my phone, all I can think about is how afraid I would be if I were logged in to so many things on my personal phone. It’s so much harder to inspect what’s going on in the background of mobile devices.
One of the compromises I’ve had to accept is the closed, yet exploitable nature of the baseband and firmware. Also how much more spying it could do compared to any PC if an exploit were to get through. Compiling Coreboot and neutering the Intel ME taught me a lot about who’s really in control - and how much control we all lose to smartphone manufacturers and telecom companies.
How have you come to terms with what you can’t control on your mobile phone?
Threat level analysis.
I run an older android version, no google apps, rooted, and use AFWall/AdAway. I’m sure it’s not as secure with root and older software but I can mostly trust it to not send weird network packets etc.
Quite the kinky lineup; WiFiAnal, Wetter, QuickDic… 😏
Whoa, I have like half of these, nice!
I see you have freetube. Grayjay is also a great addition as it has plug ins for lots of sites
damn bro gat the juice
Is that a pixel 4?
Based on the placement of the time on the status bar I would guess it’s a Pixel 5, as it needs to make space there for the camera punch out
Congratulations!!!
Thank you. Most of thoese i even dont know. Can you make a list?
Of course
- Accrescent: Store run by the GrapheneOS team for third-party apps
- Aegis: 2FA TOTP code generator
- AirGuard: Scans for persistent AirTags in the vicinity, notifies if I may be victim to AirTag tracking
- AntennaPod: Podcast manager, also supports importing local folders of podcasts
- AudioMonitor: Measure sound level
- Binary Eye: Support for many types of 1D and 2D barcodes
- ByeDPI: routes internet traffic through the DNS port to bypass certain types of filtering
- Canvass: doodle app, useful for mid-conversation diagrams and clarifying things visually in the absence of pen and paper
- ClassiCube: Minecraft Classic clone
- Conversations: XMPP client
- Editor: raw text editor
- Elementary: periodic table
- SimpleEmail: minimalist e-mail app that does not automatically fetch linked images. Refereshes in the background every 15 minutes and sends notifications without need for Play Services or equivalent
- FakeStandby: for edge cases when I want something to keep running in the foreground, but don’t want to keep the screen on
- Feeder: RSS client
- Fintunes: Jellyfin client optimized for music
- FlorisBoard: customizable keyboard
- Fruity Game: Suika but with MS-Paint art style
- Graph 89: Graphing calculator emulator
- Invizible: Tor and DNS client
- Kiwix: Offline Wikipedia (you can download just the parts useful to you, e.g. medical articles without storage-hungry media files)
- Lemuroid: GBA emulator
- LocalSend: instant P2P filesharing over WLAN
- Markor: notes app with markdown
- Material Files: files app with SMB share support and various handy features
- Molly: Alternative Signal client
- Fossify Messages: I use it over the default messages app since it is easy to block numbers by pattern
- Notally: notes app with nice checklists
- Open Camera: as easy to use as the regular camera, but with a bunch more features below the surface
- OpenContacts: saves contacts as individual .vcf files to a directory for easy backup and allows dropping unknown callers without bothering me with a notification
- Organic Maps to be replaced with CoMaps later
- OSS Document Scanner: best FOSS scanning app I’ve found so far. Includes auto-cropping (given enough contrast) and adjustable B&W filter to eliminate off-white background colors.
- phyphox: view output of sensors like the barometer, magnetometer, accelerometer, etc.
- PipePipe: NewPipe but better (except for the occasional memory leakage)
- QDict & QuickDic: offline dictionaries and bilingual wordbooks
- RadioDroid: IP radio client. Can tune in to international news, music, sports broadcasts
- RHVoice: TTS app
- RiMusic: NewPipe, but for Spotify, etc.
- SecScanQR: QR scanner and generator with history, useful to save QR addresses for later use since I don’t want to fill out forms or read documents on my phone
- SuperTuxKart: the only game on my phone
- Symphony: Music app with a slick UI
- Trail Sense: Compass with various goodies useful for outdoor activities
- Breezy Weather: weather app and homescreen widget with a slick UI
- MicroMathematics: Math engine, but I never learned how to use it
Btw Accrescent isn’t run by the GrapheneOS team, they just advocate for it’s use
Thank you!
That TI calculator app is the shit. I am in the generation who used those in engineering school. Goddamned things were like $150.
Ahhh…I am of the generation that remembers when there were no calculators. When they started becoming available, yes they were quite expensive. All my teachers would say ‘what do you think? You think you’re just going to have a calculator in your pocket all the time?’ Well, yes Mr Mizelle in engineering, I will be walking around with a calculator in my pocket that links to a satellite in outer fucking space.
And it has autocorrect on it, so then I’ll forget these spelling words
Spotify
You had me going til that one.
My bad, misremembered that RiMusic fetches from Youtube music instead of Spotify
Cannot find canvass on f-droid, got a link?
It’s on the IzzyOnDroid repo: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/com.cyb3rg0d.canvass
Fossify Paint does the same thing without adding the IzzyOnDroid repo, I just happen to have Canvass since it was the first thing that showed up when I searched.
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What does maintaining a separate profile for Google stuff buy you? I’m familiar with GrapheneOS, but haven’t internalized the separate profile thing yet.
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Got that part, but what throws me is, in order to install a Google app on that secondary “google” profile, don’t you have to first install the Google app on the main profile so that you can then push it to the secondary profile?
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Oh, I see. I must’ve misread a tutorial at some point then. I did not realize one could install an app directly into profile #2, I thought root had all the apps and then specific apps had to be pushed to the other profiles. Thanks for clarifying that.
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I nave ho learn how ho do these two profile things. How do u switch between them, and IS it on the fly?
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Wow, this is impressive. I had heard about profiles but never got into the detail and never really understood the benefit. So, a cool way of using this it to have a FOSS only space under the main admin profile and the build up a second “big brother” profile where I stack some annoying apps that in a way or another I’m forced to use like banking app and what’s app. When the “big brother” profile is shut down, nobody tracks you. Would that be correct? If this is true I’m here asking myself why on earth people are not harnessing this more.
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Last I tried RHVoice is was very unnatural sounding.
Sherpa-onnx is a much much more natural option. I personally use vits-piper-en_GB-southern_english_female-medium because I thought it sounded the most natural. You can also use Glados from Portal
I second sherpa! Love it. I use with with Librera FD so basically made PDFs audiobooks.
Quite impressive choice of apps, usually when I look at screenshots of privacy enthusiasts they look more or less like my own phone, and with you I share 3, maybe 4 apps only
I love the mandatory Super Tux Cart anyone of us has installed but played like 4 times
Lemuroid and PipePipe <3
Btw if you’re signed it with your youtube account on pipepipe you might not be able to watch videos. There were recent changes to the youtube
I wish I had friends to use xmpp apps to text…I’m a whatsapp hostage
To be fair, I only have a few of my friends and some of my family on XMPP. I’m also guilty of having WhatsApp on my work phone for colleagues and the rest of my friends.
Lol. Last picture at the bottom third. “WiFiAnal” xD (Sorry, I’m childish)
Hey, that’s the only safe way to let others control your buttplug.










