• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    That’s not true Here is an example:
    8÷2x4
    PEMDAS: 8÷2x4 = 8÷8 = 1
    PEDMAS: 8÷2x4 = 4x4 = 16
    PE M|D A|S: 8÷2x4 = 4x4 = 16
    And thats not even getting into juxtaposition operations, where fields like physics use conventions that differ from most other field.

    but you’re missing the point. It could be SAMDEP and math would still work, you’d just rearrange the equation. Just like with prefix or postfix notation. The rules don’t change, just the notation conventions change. But you need to agree on the notation conventions to reach the same answer.

    • That’s not true

      Yes it is

      PEDMAS: 8÷2x4 = 4x4 = 16

      Yep.

      PEMDAS: 8÷2x4 = 8÷8 = 1

      Nope. PEMDAS: 8x4÷2 = 32÷2 = 16. What you actually did is 8÷(2x4), in which you changed the sign in front of the 4 - 8÷(2x4)= 8÷2÷4 - hence your wrong answer

      PE M|D A|S: 8÷2x4 = 4x4 = 16

      Yep, same answer regardless of the order 🙄

      And thats not even getting into juxtaposition operations,

      Which I have no doubt you don’t understand how to do those either, given you don’t know how to even do Multiplication first in this example.

      where fields like physics use conventions that differ from most other field

      Nope! The obey all the rules of Maths. They would get wrong answers if they didn’t

      you’re missing the point

      No, you are…

      It could be SAMDEP and math would still work

      No it can’t because no it wouldn’t 😂

      you’d just rearrange the equation.

      Says someone who didn’t rearrange “PEMDAS: 8÷2x4 = 8÷8 = 1” and got the wrong answer 😂

      The rules don’t change

      Hence why “PEMDAS: 8÷2x4 = 8÷8 = 1” was wrong. You violated the rule of Left Associativity

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        10 hours ago

        Ok, then explain prefix and postfix, where these conventions don’t apply. How can these be rules of math when they didn’t universally apply?

        Says someone who didn’t rearrange "PEMDAS

        The order of operations tells us how to interpret an equation without rearranging it. When you pick a different convention, you need to rearrange it to get the same answer. What you did was rearrange the equation, which you can only do if you are already following a specific convention.

        No it can’t because no it wouldn’t 😂

        All conventions can produce the correct answer, when appropriately arranged for that convention, because the conventions are not laws of mathematics, they are conventions.

        Nope! The obey all the rules of Maths. They would get wrong answers if they didn’t

        They obey the laws of math. Conventions aren’t laws of math, they’re conventions. And a quick Google search will tell you that not everyone puts juxtaposition at a higher precedent than multiplication; it’s a convention. As long as people are using the same convention, they’ll agree on an answer and that answer is correct.

        You can be mean all you like, that doesn’t change the nature of conventions