My mom claims there is no problems into being tracked and stuff and that “Every normal person will use gmail”;

My brother says you only should hide your data if you are a criminal or something.

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    “Ultimately, arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say”

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    Something I want to try replying to the nothing to hide crowd:

    Why do you close the door to your home then? What criminal activity are you hiding?

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    I wish some people would just come up with an excuse! They (pretend to listen), nod, and then… nothing. Or sometimes just repeat their previous argument.

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    I gave up, the issue is much bigger than just privacy. Most people have no problem with having their life controlled by external circumstances and being exploited. They say that’s how life is. They don’t save money, but spend it all. They don’t start a company, but just get hired. They don’t protect their data, but give it away for free. They don’t eat healthy, but prefer to enjoy their sugar and fast food. They don’t work out, but just watch TV, consuming ads. Most people are unreasonable beyond help.

    My advice is, just do your thing and let the results speak for themselves.

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    “You’ll miss out on so many events and social opportunities because you don’t have any ‘real’ social media.”

    As an introvert, I don’t care.

    “You’re selfish for putting your silly notions of ‘privacy’ and ‘control over your digital life’ over being in the loop with what your friends are doing. One day you’ll realize that being there when your friends post about their life events is more important.”

    Said by someone who I never considered my friend in the first place. My actual friends have ways of reaching me other than Facebook or WhatsApp.

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      One day you’ll realize that being there when your friends post about their life events is more important.

      Lmao. Being there for their posts??? This is delusional and sad.

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      “selfish”? Wow. Reminds me of the time my brother just invented I deserve to be doxxed for uninstalling google and youtube from my phone.

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      It’s true though. The web was built on ads because no one wants to pay for stuff. It also would not have gotten to where it is if it was pay. Would it have been better though we we’ll never know.

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    “They already have my information anyway.”

    “Oh, what are they gonna do with my info? Who cares that I searched for X and Y? LOL.”

    Me, a software engineer working for a major cSaaS provider that partners with other companies that specialise in Mobile Real User Monitoring, Open Telemetry, Bluetooth beacons, etc.: “Eh, no idea what they do with that info. Now let me just ignore all these non-anonymized analytics, spans, traces, and metrics that these companies capture about your devices and the health of their applications and infrastructure.”

    I stopped bringing these things up years ago. Can’t explain this to persons who don’t care or are not remotely close to being tech savvy. Let them be content and enjoy the things they enjoy.

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      No 1 answer for sure…

      “They already have my information anyway.”

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        But how to argue against? I once said, in Europe you have the right to get all the information deleted. Guess why they established this law?

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          That information becomes less value the older it is. If you go dark all of a sudden tomorrow, that information will be worth a small fraction in a year. And there’s the old saying: “The best time to plant a tree is 30 years ago. The second best time is now.”

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            Then why do they keep it? The collect so much data and keep it all. Then when there is a leak it’s worse cause they have so much “useless” data.

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            No it isn’t. And it is a fairly new concept. And privacy from what there is really no way to be totally private unless you move to the woods and never interact with anyone else. I’ve heard people complain about their neighbours know what they are doing on here and there is no way to prevent that kind of stuff if your interacting with other people even in person.

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    A (otherwise educated and pretty smart) friend once said to me that she is okay with Google knowing everything since she expects that everybody can profit from the generated knowledge.