XMPP, but also Delta Chat! The Webxdc apps for Delta work in XMPP client Cheogram despite there being no cross-compatibility between the networks. It can access ordinary email servers so long as they were not set up maliciously (Apple, M$, Gmail, etc). It can do a couple things XMPP cannot, but it’s not suitable for anyone outside close friends and family. I basically only use it for email, automation, and other personal matters. XMPP is for general use and can replace Discord. The Movim project looks very cool they have a community here also join their XMPP chat. Cheogram services can connect to the regular phone network.

Ask in the Sharkey Discord (sorry that’s the only place they are) if any better forks have arisen than Sharkey yet. They’ll be frank

Which fork?

They’re just in browser at the moment, but it’s very flexible since you can login to instances with XMPP accounts elsewhere. It’s under pretty active development although TBQH I find the Povoq guy difficult 😂

You know if Movim really takes off I admit that would be amazing because it’s like a hardened facebook. Public photo albums are important to people

I try to get people to add me on musicbrainz and link up music services to it. It’s cool bc you can funnel music player program listens, funkwhale (which is activitypub!), scloud, spotify, yt music, apple, all of their ʜᴏᴛ ɢᴀʀʙᴀɢᴇ right, but it still works with open source shit. It can absorb lastfm which a lot of ppl have hanging around. None of this solves the reality of being at an information disadvantage vs someone who plays weird games with IG likes. But are people like that worth the stress anyways??

But if you get each other’s music recs and can dm realistically what else do you need? Am i boring? Lol

If you avoid technical stuff a lot of people are pretty understanding of not having socials. Instagrsm ks HITLER NOW! Everyone jokes abt it. Way I do it is I just post hiking photos on Insta and other stuff. In order to avoid booting it up yourself, it can be automated with IFTTT (proprietary but so are the datamining services you use it to reach so who care??). Problem is being responsive to notifs but I just check half of them every other day so people don’t think you died and hit like

The whol eXMPP ecosystem is really confusing I just strongly disagree that matrix is a step forward. On the subject of its backups, I had multiple mysterious failures with matrix it before switching to XMPP. I use a password manager so the likelihood of user error is low

Not a real thing, you just have high bodyfat and poor eye contact skills. Hope this helps

Yes!

Nice, I’m gonna try that. I use SingleFile.

Never cared for the way this fellow tries to argue that everything is too difficult to be useful. I’ve gotten plenty of friends and family on XMPP and the clients that don’t have encryption on by default are easy to remember. Really blowing it out of proportion.

Honestly, what do security researchers like this even know about normal people? They sit through all kinds of inconveniences to use Facebook. This is a thought experiment.

Some of these are valid criticisms, of course, a lot of XMPP stuff feels like it from the 2010s. It’s still the only real option. Matrix client or server is bloated garbage, theu moved server fixes into a walled garden, its development is dependent on funding from the USA National Endowment for Democracy technology fund. Signal has similar funding issues and is very shady with its centralization, trust issues, demanding phone numbers. Sets users up to leak all kinds of stuff in notifications like Matrix.

The strange insistence that only Signal meets their requirements makes me skeptical, as does the way they have operated in Github threads. They seem like an emotional nightmare to work with.

Seeing this shit feels like an advertisement though, in a way.

100% it is aggravating that I cannot make something as simple as a chat relay on the mighty computer. It is the work of depraved individuals

None whatsoever sorry. I got made fun of as a Westoid for mentioning Whatsapp though, apparently the cool kids are on Viber now.

Yeah if you want to use Signal and TG, Molly and AyuGram are a bit better than stock FYI

The correct way to eliminate human trafficking and child abuse is capital controls. Bring the fucking bankers to heel. You don’t have the credibility to talk like this while you work hand-in-glove with skinsuits like Jamie Dimon and the coterie of coin operated policymakers that calls itself western democracy. So the intention is not to use credibility, but something much quicker.

Oh, since you mentioned Telegram, I ought to mention that it’s totally possible to puppeteer your account on there so it looks just like you are using the real app. If a lady asked me to use TG or Signal I would unironically assume she knows drug dealers 😭

Matterbridge works with some of those, but I doubt anyone wants to talk to a relay bot. Just directly get people’s real phone numbers and run the Insta from your home PC in browser. All of those apps are cancer and even in a separate profile on Graphene or some shit, I would feel like a dirty bastard.

Cheogram offers a phone gateway. They don’t even know they are using XMPP.