Thanks for the information about Operation Bloodstone!

Thanks for the song!

TIL

To make this song even more spot on, Lehrer used eight bars from the well-known German national anthem “Das Lied der Deutschen” as a song intro :-)

For those interested in learning about Operation Paperclip:

Although he officially sanctioned the operation, President Harry Truman forbade the agency from recruiting any Nazi members or active Nazi supporters. Nevertheless, officials within the JIOA and Office of Strategic Services (OSS)—the forerunner to the CIA—bypassed this directive by eliminating or whitewashing incriminating evidence of possible war crimes from the scientists’ records, believing their intelligence to be crucial to the country’s postwar efforts.

Although defenders of the clandestine operation argue that the balance of power could have easily shifted to the Soviet Union during the Cold War if these Nazi scientists were not brought to the United States, opponents point to the ethical cost of ignoring their abhorrent war crimes without punishment or accountability.^[1]

I just posted a video of Annie Jacobsen talking about Nuclear War, she also wrote a book about Operation Paperclip.^[2]

In the days and weeks after Germany’s surrender, American troops combed the European countryside in search of hidden caches of weaponry to collect. They came across facets of the Nazi war machine that the top brass were shocked to see, writer Annie Jacobsen told NPR’s All Things Considered in 2014. Jacobson wrote about both the mission and the scientists in her book, Operation Paperclip: The Secret Intelligence Program That Brought Nazi Scientists To America.

“One example was they had no idea that Hitler had created this whole arsenal of nerve agents,” Jacobsen says. “They had no idea that Hitler was working on a bubonic plague weapon. That is really where Paperclip began, which was suddenly the Pentagon realizing, ‘Wait a minute, we need these weapons for ourselves.’"^[3]

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Oh, awesome find!

Some imdb information:

Clive Barker | Known for: Nightbreed, Hellraiser, Candyman, The Midnight Meat Train | “All I’ve ever wanted to do is darken the day and brighten the night.” | His influences include Herman Melville, Edgar Allan Poe, Ray Bradbury, William S. Burroughs, William Blake, and Jean Cocteau, among others.^[1]

Candyman | 1992 | R | 1h 39m | Psychological Horror, Supernatural Horror, Horror, Thriller | The Candyman, a murderous soul with a hook for a hand, is accidentally summoned to reality by a skeptic grad student researching the monster’s myth.^[2]

Hellraiser | 1987 | R | 1h 34m | Body Horror, Supernatural Horror, Horror, Thriller | A woman discovers the newly resurrected, partially formed, body of her brother-in-law and lover. She starts killing for him to revitalize his body and escape the demonic beings that are pursuing him after he escaped their underworld.^[3]

Sadly, not the only billionaire pushing for more surveillance.

Another big one is Peter Thiel.

Oh, I knew I heard Mexico had a major reason for that name to stick; thanks for posting!

Feel free to continue to think that way, but I will continue to disagree.

Dissidence =/= troll

Thanks, here is more information about Crikey:

Crikey is an independent Australian source for news, investigations, analysis and opinion focusing on politics, media, economics, health, international affairs, the climate, business, society and culture. We are guided by a deceptively simple, old idea: tell the truth and shame the devil.

I don’t agree with your smears.

I posted the possible source that started this.

Thanks for the chat though.

Joining in the lemmy circle jerk of name calling anyone that does not align to your thinking, nice.

Was this the article that started it? Do you have the thread or would an archived link be required to see it?

Vegan versus meat-based cat food: Guardian-reported health outcomes in 1,369 cats, after controlling for feline demographic factors [Andrew Knight, Alexander Bauer, Hazel Brown | Published: September 13, 2023]^[1]

Abstract

Increasing concerns about environmental sustainability, farmed animal welfare and competition for traditional protein sources, are driving considerable development of alternative pet foods. These include raw meat diets, in vitro meat products, and diets based on novel protein sources including terrestrial plants, insects, yeast, fungi and potentially seaweed. To study health outcomes in cats fed vegan diets compared to those fed meat, we surveyed 1,418 cat guardians, asking about one cat living with them, for at least one year. Among 1,380 respondents involved in cat diet decision-making, health and nutrition was the factor considered most important. 1,369 respondents provided information relating to a single cat fed a meat-based (1,242–91%) or vegan (127–9%) diet for at least a year. We examined seven general indicators of illness. After controlling for age, sex, neutering status and primary location via regression models, the following risk reductions were associated with a vegan diet for average cats: increased veterinary visits– 7.3% reduction, medication use– 14.9% reduction, progression onto therapeutic diet– 54.7% reduction, reported veterinary assessment of being unwell– 3.6% reduction, reported veterinary assessment of more severe illness– 7.6% reduction, guardian opinion of more severe illness– 22.8% reduction. Additionally, the number of health disorders per unwell cat decreased by 15.5%. No reductions were statistically significant. We also examined the prevalence of 22 specific health disorders, using reported veterinary assessments. Forty two percent of cats fed meat, and 37% of those fed vegan diets suffered from at least one disorder. Of these 22 disorders, 15 were most common in cats fed meat, and seven in cats fed vegan diets. Only one difference was statistically significant. Considering these results overall, cats fed vegan diets tended to be healthier than cats fed meat-based diets. This trend was clear and consistent. These results largely concur with previous, similar studies.

liar

Joining in on the lemmy circle jerk of name calling those that don’t fall in line to your status quo.

I am not disputing that claim.

I am pointing out the “science” that started the whole event.

IIRC, it was a reputable source, not just some random website talking conspiracies.

Smear those that don’t follow the status quo.

The lemmy circle jerk continues.

some moderation or the loudest but stupidest would have the rest of us unable to have discussions

I don’t agree on this; it is just using it as an excuse to censor dissent.

Not giving them meat will make them sick and possibly die.

Yes, many on Lemmy pointed that out, and enough reports were made that admins got heavily involved in the managing of the community, which should be a huge concern for those that left Reddit for similar reasons.

Discussions are good for those that can handle critical thinking, but it seems that any “science” not aligning to the status quo will be censored.

This goes back to more enforcement and more interference with what moderators want vs. admins vs. users.

IMO: Like our society and our social media, Lemmy is becoming much more similar to a Police State.^[1].

You really like to smear people anywhere you go.

Can’t expect much from Satan, you bring shame to your name.

it’s not up to admins to decide what is disinformation and what is not.

I agree, we are becoming much more similar to other social media sites.

Censorship of dissidence discussions due to “misinformation,” “disinformation,” and only allowing “science.”

Our science institutions and media are just as corrupt as our politicians; that is why critical thinking should be encouraged instead of more censorship to baby the people.