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Cake day: August 15th, 2023

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  • Sigh…right. But people DO need email. For banks. For taxes. For governments, healthcare, and lots of other crap.

    So yeah, I’m skipping the whole “encrypted mailbox no-knowledge”, since it’s both cumbersome and useless unless anyone around you ALSO uses it (otherwise, those super private emails can be way more easily intercepted during transit than in your inbox anyway).

    I just want some attempt at privacy from some EU nation while keeping some decent interoperability.




  • For what’s worth, I’m going to give it a shot on the month trial. But I already see the middle tier for 3€ offers 10GB email only. I think I can fit my current old mail backup in about 4GB, but it would be slightly tight, I guess. I’m on an older Proton plan which charges about 3USD per month (by-yearly) and it gets me about 20GB. I think shared between cloud and email (I’m not actually interested in the cloud part, I have Seafile for that).



  • I’m all for options, to be honest. What ideally I’d like is some sort of good encrypted email based in some safe European country, which can achieve decent Android integration. Proton apps are pretty useless to that effect (lack of offline basic functionalities, the calendar app isn’t even an android calendar provider). I’m not too hard in moving around my emails, since for the last few years I’ve been giving my email @duck.com which actually ends up sending to my final email after some tracking cleaning. Changing email provider would entail only updating my @duck.com destination.

    Following up…Yeah, why not Startmail or Disroot? Startmail seems to offer more bang for the buck than Mailbox. I’m not sure how many aliases you get if you get a paid plan in disroot.

    EDIT: I…misread. Startmail offers half-priced plan the first year, then goes ahead and doubles it, getting pricier than Proton, Mailbox and about everyone else I think.











  • Thanks! I mean, etesync also has a super basic web UI. I meant some sort of calendar/contacts web editing tool, like calendar.google.com or similar. I’ve just installed a docker image of Radicale, but all I can see is the webUI for adding/removing collections, nothing else…Etesync also has this. They also provide a webUI editor, but it’s a separate tool to install elsewhere, that requires another URL to be running. I’d like to have both server and a webUI to handle users, collections, and the individual items/calendars/contacts of the collections as well.



  • Thanks! For databases, I’d prefer not to have to rely on Syncthing. I know it’s reliable, but I’d prefer something hooking directly to the android contacts/calendars providers. I’ll try something CalDAV/CardDav-based. Still trying to find one that includes a web client as well, to edit the contacts/calendars on the web if I choose to (otherwise I’ll be needing to create two URLs, one for the client and another for the server).



  • How…do you self-host both the server AND the web client? Do you need two different addresses? Can it be done on the same server/container?

    I understand I can just run the the server, which has this tiny little add-user and permissions page, but I’d like to also be able to handle the contacts and calendar from the Web UI from a computer whenever needed. Of course I know I can plug any app to the server directly, but I’d like the web UI, too…Do you know how to do this? I’ve spent a couple of hours searching without much luck.


  • Thanks! I was trying a first run attempt, but I got stuck setting up python. Seems these setup instructions don’t quite work anymore due to python’s virtual environment, pipx is suggested now. Alternatively I saw the option to just install a dated version, but it was quite a bunch of releases behind. I gave up and had a bit more success with Etesync server. Although I’m trying now to figure how the hell am I to setup both the server and the web client on the same running environment…I’d like to host the web client too, so I can edit calendar entries from the web UI.