Well yeah

We’re always seeing the sun from the side

Then I suppose we disagree on what “oppose” or “tolerate” mean

You can’t genuinely oppose something and tolerate it at the same time, that’s a contradiction

It’s not an inherent obligation, but if you genuinely oppose those ideas, you’d feel compelled to argue against them if someone expressed them, or else remove yourself from the situation ASAP

Is that the way you think? You only argue with people to prove who you are to observers, or if it’s your job?

Make it clear I disagree with what I disagree with

First time you’ve said anything remotely like that. Why not say this sooner?

If you don’t challenge their racism, you’re just accepting it.

I think of it more as the law looking away from any incidents on the day, and ignoring any lasting consequences after. Makes it neater.

But they don’t encourage open thought and critical thinking. They basically tell you what to think.

You take that back 😭

I’m in complete agreement. The Internet should have been amazing for democracy. Then they went and privatised it, to control the online landscape and push propaganda.

Not even a little

When the world stops being a neoliberal hellscape

Its a reasonable suspicion.

“Amoung” is incorrect

Of course I’m referring to Supernatural

The X Files was amazing

I see it more as a (shittier) fantasy version of The X Files

Okay, so you agree you can accept a person as a human and a friend without accepting their beliefs?

Misleading question. If their “differing belief” is that God created the Earth, or that crystals have healing magic, then whatever. They can be kooky if they want. If their “differing belief” is that only whites deserve to live, they can get fucked.

I wouldn’t really agree with that only because its just not your job. You don’t have a responsibility with burdening yourself with constantly correcting others.

What a deliciously convenient excuse for not challenging your nazi friends. “It’s not my job!!”

It’s also “not your job” to queue properly, to put shopping trolleys back in the corral, or to obey traffic laws. You do it anyway, though, because it is the right thing to do. I don’t have to be employed for every little thing i do.

But hey, let’s try your logic: it is not my job to ensure that every little racist feels accepted and understood. It’s not my responsibility to coddle Nazis.

Where did I compromise on my beliefs?

Having a “fun” conversation with a nazi

I mean did you see what I said about literally explicitly being okay with being friends with a murderer. If you’re actually curious about why I think like that: I think people are much more multifaceted than most people give credit for. They’re molded by their environment, habits they fall into. I think behaviors and beliefs are closer to habits, or sometimes addictions, to ways of thinking than they are fixed elements of a “personality” or “identity”. I think there are probably many killers who were genuinely sweet, and kind, and caring, to their friends and family- and when they’re like that, that’s just as much them as when they’re doing genuinely evil things. I can see the human while also not enabling the evil.

Well that’s all very sweet, how nice of you to be so kind to murderers.

But whatever, I just don’t care - you are not beholden to be kind to someone just because they are multifaceted and complete humans. Humans can be evil, and if even one of those “facets” is murdering or a desire for genocide, I have every right to disagree with that. I do not owe anyone my time, or my patience.

And so fucking what if they’re molded by their environment and experiences? Why should I give even the slightest shit if the end result of the molding process was a FUCKING NAZI? I’ve had bad experiences with ethnic minorities and didn’t blame it on their heritage or skin colour. Why should I let them off the hook?

Yea I agree their sense of humor is often really bad. “N-word == funny” type stuff. But there might be some some actually funny ones.

Funny if you’re racist. And again, I do not have to wade through a mile of shit and corpses just because there might be a slice of cake at the end. I am allowed to say “no, fuck off”.

Also the worst thing is how they always want to bring everything back to the jews. Like I can think a movie is bad without wanting to hear a 10 minute rant about how the jews control Hollywood.

Yet another reason not to talk to them outside of berating them.

Where did I say that?

Like I already said: when you said you’d prefer a “fun” nazi to someone else “boring”, and implied by you taking issue with me saying you should either argue or leave. This implies you’d prefer to stay and not argue. And if you’re not arguing with them or leaving, what are you doing? Standing completely still with no words or body language of your own? No, you’re engaging in the conversation.