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  • Your data has monetary value to google. Giving them access, without getting any money from them (or even knowing what ways it will be used) is not something you must do.

    To be fair, while you may not be getting money in its direct form (cash, bank deposit, etc) from Google, they are providing you a service which costs them money for free. So they are providing something of monetary value.

    Only the individual can determine if their data is worth that free (to the individual, not free to Google) service. I’m assuming that most people in a privacy community would be against that, though.



  • I don’t even use proprietary apps so most if the “security features” aren’t even useful to me

    So only proprietary apps may have malware? Malware aside, only proprietary apps may have bugs that can be exploited? And all nonproprietary apps are perfectly safe? But seriously, there is so much wrong with that thinking.

    Apps aside, GrapheneOS protects the actual OS and is kept up to date, much quicker than pretty much any other variant.

    It is overly complex for no benefit to me.

    What’s overly complex? Contact and storage scope I mentioned? You don’t have to use it. Separate profiles for work I mentioned? Again, don’t have to use it. GrapheneOS is one of the closest OSes to AOSP that I’ve seen. You could even just install the Play Store (which is in a sandbox by default, with no root, and you don’t have to do anything to specify that), only use the owner profile, and you get all of the security benefits with no extra work. You introducing F-Droid and using all nonproprietary apps is more complex than GrapheneOS out of the box.


  • Graphene sucks the life of android in my humble option.

    What’s not “fun” or lifeless about it? It’s a phone. I use it exactly as I would a normal Pixel, with the exception of having the convenience of Google Wallet.

    Everything is about security with anything else being second.

    Would you rather it be all about fun/having life with everything else being second? That doesn’t sound safe. And I’m still confused about you saying it having no life.

    I will say what I do differently vs a normal Pixel, is I use the storage scopes and lock certain apps to certain folders as well as contact scopes to lock certain apps to only see certain people. I don’t use my phone for work, but if I did, that would be a separate profile/user.



  • They are expensive

    Sometimes you get what you pay for, and…

    I don’t want to give money to Google

    I get that, but your purchase (the entire Pixel department, to be honest) is a drop in the ocean to their profits. They won’t notice you not buying one at all. You’re handicapping yourself in the mobile security arena (not being able to install GrapheneOS) to take the high ground and not effect a tech giant.

    That aside, if you really don’t want to give Google, buy one from a reseller and not from the Google Store.






    • Mainstream cloud storage providers like Google Drive and iCloud have access to users’ files, posing privacy and security risks.
    • Nextcloud is the preferred secure cloud storage option, but has drawbacks like the need for technical expertise to self-host and issues with end-to-end encryption.
    • Filen is a user-friendly secure cloud storage option, but has some concerns around encryption implementation.
    • Mega offers a large free storage plan, but has had past security issues and controversies.
    • Proton’s secure cloud storage is part of their broader privacy-focused ecosystem, but has some app and feature inconsistencies.
    • Cryptomator is a useful tool to add an extra layer of encryption to any cloud storage service.
    • Apple’s Advanced Data Protection is a proprietary solution that lacks transparency compared to open-source alternatives.
    • It’s important to weigh the risks versus benefits when choosing a cloud storage provider based on the sensitivity of the data.
    • Switching to a more secure and privacy-focused cloud storage option is worthwhile, even for non-sensitive data.
    • The article encourages users to take steps to improve their cloud storage privacy and security, rather than relying on mainstream providers by default.

    Courtesy of Kagi’s Universal Summarizer’s Key Moments.