Hello everyone! I have been de-googling my life for a few years. I don’t have official YouTube clients anymore. At this point I use PipePipe, a fork from New Pipe to watch videos.
But as a Spotify and YouTube Music replacement, I am currently using Outer Tune.
My problem is that with or without Proton VPN usage I get errors again and again. despite closing the app, switching off the VPN etc. At this point it’s impossible for me use Outer Tune any longer.
What are you using?
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on the long run im looking to build a offline media vault. but for the moment. i want to use a Spotifiy alternative, where there are suggastions… for new music that i like.
i tried Rimusic a while ago can’t say why i find’t like it anymore.
i love making playlist offline with it and PipePipe is a dream but its not right for me for music
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I use InnerTune with proton VPN (though I had to exclude it in the split tunneling setting) and all works just fine.
Qobuz (pronounced Co-buzz). Based out of France.
Qobuz also has some of the highest royalty payments for artists.
Sadly trash privacy guidelines, same for every other streaming service. Privacy comes with piracy, no way around that.
Is your music listening a privacy concern?
Worth noting however that you can also buy the music DRM free and then stream from a local solution like jellyfin.
I have had some issues with OuterTune (expected for this type of app) but not to the extent you’re describing. The current version works for me. Have you tried other open source YoiTube Music clients too? There are loads out there.
I have been googling my life for a few years.
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What are you using?
I “steal” the music and either have it locally on my devices or stream it through VPN from my home server.
Coincidentally, I use PipePipe to download the audio from YouTube music videos. Been using it more than torrents for quite some time.
Is PipePipe still working for you? I’ve been having issues with yt-dlp since YT released an update a few months ago
Sure, the only times I get issues is when using a blocked VPN node.
I love bandcamp. I wish I could put more music i bought into my collections though.
If that YSK post about Deezer’s main shareholder CEO wouldn’t have come out, then I would have suggested that, since that’s what me and my friends are using in the family plan after being disappointed with Tidal as a Spotify alternative.
Not sure why nobody mentioned it yet, but I switched to Metrolist a while back when RiMusic/ViMusic stopped working. Never had to look back and never had issues so far.
RiMusic is still working fine for me
For real? ViMusic is archived since October '24… same goes for RiMusic which was archived… yesterday? Ok, I wasn’t even aware of that - last I knew was that it became a local-only client when the dev gave up fighting against the constant api changes on youtube side.
Anyhow, glad it somehow still works for you - it’s been a great app.
I use Musify from F-droid for what your describing.
To be honest though I only really listen to my offline collection and radio/internet radio for discovering new music.
Check out The Indie Beat. It’s an internet radio station playing music from artists on the Fediverse, like Radio Free Fedi used to. All my favourite discoveries from the last couple of years have been by or via Fedi artists.
If you have a NextCloud instance with NextCloud Music app installed you can use its Ampache or Subsonic API implementation with a client in your devices (I recommend Ampache as the implementation is a literal server clone).
If not, as other people suggested Funkwhale.
If you still depend on YT Music, there is RiMusic as a client but prolly will give you errors too after some time if your network is denylisted.
Could you please elaborate on your last sentence? What do you mean with “errors […] after some time if your network is denylisted”? I am using RiMusic and I indeed run into weird errors where the music stops in the middle.
Google adds extra safe-checks to networks which they consider suspicious automatically so you cannot scrape their websites that easy.
Purchase DRM free music to have locally. HDTracks and 7Digital are two great resources
I’ve done this for decades. While everyone else switched to streaming music, I keep my entire collection on my phone. It’s only 40GB, but it makes up the majority of my music listening, with streaming radio supplementing it to find new stuff… which I then purchase and download if I like it.
I’ve been loving Qobuz so far. Migrating our family was easier than I thought.
Plus it comes with a free music migration tool.
Qobuz distributed royalties due to labels and publishers corresponding to an average amount of US$0.01873 per stream
This means that Qobuz generates on average five times more revenue per user than the market average,
How much does Spotify pay per stream?
Spotify pays artists between $0.003 - $0.005 per stream on average.
That works out as an approx revenue split of 70/30 - so that’s 70% to the artist/rights holders and 30% to Spotify.
Funkwhale may worth a look: https://www.funkwhale.audio/ I used for quite some time and was nice, the main issue was the unmaintained Android app.
I’ll get downvoted but to find music and have a tiny hair of privacy Apple Music may be efficient for the mainstream audience.
I download the audio that I like and store in a local server but I can’t expect every person in the world doing the same.
Apps that depend on ytmusic (like OuterTune) are not reliable, but you can try RiMusic, it works for me currently.
Plexamp with music stored on my homelab
