I just made a post on discord about this, and I link to alternatives such as a matrix group, signal chat, my YouTube channel, etc. if I am locked out, then I hope my followers can follow me to the new place, whatever that is.
No.
The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.
comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.
Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who’ve been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It’s also US-based
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Correct, I don’t really want 12-year-olds commenting here either. Do you? Genuine question
Though Lemmy instances are largely public. You don’t need an account to view their contents. So that’s pretty different from Discord
For the record, I do think the laws will apply to Lemmy instances
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Interesting. I think most users would assume they’re talking to other adults and might change their language or behavior if they thought they were conversing with children
Age is anything but arbitrary from a law perspective. With these laws there is no expectation of privacy in regards to age. I’d argue there never was, it was just poorly enforced and got normalized
I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification or we need actual data privacy laws in the US with some teeth. As it is right now it’s basically a guarantee that your ID and facial data will be in a breach eventually. Seems like every site will require this once it starts.
I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification
Yep. Probably a billion dollar idea if you can execute it properly. These laws are spurring competition
I think most peoples’ facial data is already for sale and breachable/leakable
I mean. . . It should be up to the parents to protect and educate their children. It is very easy to set up protections on a computer to either not let them use discord or to not allow them to install it.
That’s a false dichotomy. Parents can and should protect children. Social media sites can and should protect children. It’s in the social interest. Parents don’t have control over every device a child has access to. Firewalls at schools and libraries are often lackluster
Why shouldn’t young children be able to use Discord? I have kids and want them to be able to use it to chat while they play games with friends and with me.
I’ll try to keep them to only chatting with people they know until I think they’re mature enough.
I have kids too. I’m not singling out Discord here, just pointing out they’re trying to follow the law.
Young kids and social media are inherently a bad mix. Primarily because it promotes antisocial behaviors and they cannot effectively comprehend and consent to the privacy polices and TOS. Hence why adults need to be involved in account creation.
the creators of the laws requiring said guardrails should be held personally accountable for every piece of information that gets leaked as a result of their bs “think of the children” arguments.
Reminder that we have a european alternative called Revolt we can always switch to!
Another alternative is Element for chatting and Teamspeak for Calls/Screenshare!
Element/Matrix does calls and screen share also by the way!
(Teamspeak can do screen share? That’s news to me!)
I just checked and indeed it does! Didn’t know that before, although I do think Revolt is more user friendly to non-tech people so will probably be a better choice for people to migrate to.
Teamspeak 6 released a month or so ago and has Peer2Peer screenshare, it works great!
Element does it natively? As in, it’s a feature of Element and not some integration with a different tool? I didn’t even expect calls to be a part of the matrix protocol yet.
I haven’t tried it yet but opening Element in browser it does have a call option
in the past they were using a jitsy integration, they are in the process of migrating to their in-house element call
Element really needs to get push to talk. It’s an incredibly basic feature to be missing, and for me personally and I’m sure others the lack of it is a deal breaker.
Great. Now I have to wear aging makeup because of my baby face.
I quit discord a year ago for Matrix or XMPP. never looked back.
Please give me a federated, self-hosted Discord alternative! I’m tired of these bullshit platforms.
Not federated, but Revolt can be self-hosted and is very similar to Discord in the look and feel from what I have seen (I have it installed, but haven’t tried getting friends to install it and am not hosting). So it could be worth looking into for folks that are used to Discord.
It’s not federated, the developer is specifically against federation. He didn’t even support self-hosting properly and officially, until the community made pullrequests in this regard themselves. Revolt is mainly made to be hosted by the developer himself. Probably just another Discord. Open-sourcing the code doesn’t do anything.
Future headline: “Discord users begin testing Discord alternatives”
Too bad team speak hasn’t released their updated server files.
I’ve never quit using teamspeak but I’d never see it as an alternative for the chatting functions of discord (neither private or server wide). Calling and screensharing on it is superior for sure, chatting is garbage.
Embedded matrix client and Teamspeak client in a webpage? Selfhost it.
I’m sure it can’t be that hard. I’m planning on rolling out something similar, if it works I’ll like the source code here.
I’m not a technical person, can’t be bothered for that. In the end for tools like this its important non-tech people can also use it
This is something that I feel like should be at the top of every single tech related community. Not everyone is a techie and they shouldn’t have to be to exiat in the modern world.
We really need more people working on tech that both has great privacy but also simplicity. Currently you always have to pick between convenience or privacy. Everybody that keeps pushing self hosting doesn’t get that not everybody has the skills or time to set that up.
I work in IT, I do QA, I write test automation code, I setup CI/CD pipelines but the moment you put me on networking stuff I’m done, gg well played. It’s a whole new skillset so if I as someone who grew up and work in a technical job has a hard time with it don’t even think its going mainstream.
This 1000%
Already started. Revolt seems like it could be a near 1 to 1 replacement soon.
Maybe we can all go back to AIM
It’s proprietary and centralized. No practical difference. IRC and XMPP are the way.
Element is a good alternative, OpenSource and federated
And just like that I uninstalled the app, never to login again. It wasn’t that important for me anyway.
consider requesting a GDPR data request, and when that’s completed a GDPR data deletion. the former mostly to have a backup for you, you can skip it if you don’t find it important
A lot of games and mods use Discord almost exclusively for their discussions, but I always found Discord groups hard to follow. So much random talk among a few bits of good information.
Steam community boards are underrated.
Byeeeeee
I have a privacy news channel on my discord server because I’m desperately trying to get my folks to switch to Matrix, it hasn’t happened yet but maybe it will now.
Beginning of the end for discord probably.
I wish. I think it’s the beginning of the end to anonymous online presenses. It’s becoming more and more common for things like this to be required by corporate social media.
facebook does the same thing, except also requires a photo ID too. it seems alot right wingers have migrated to these 2 platforms so they can control narratives better, better off staying away from these platforms.
How am I going to rip on them until they have aneurysms if I’m not on there too?
soooo, honest opinions of discord users here: hows matrix nowadays? what are the other options?
It really depends on how you use Discord. Matrix was never trying to be a Discord alternative so for some usecases it’s fine, but for a place to hang out with your friends and play video games it’s not.
