I didn’t say anything about the Trump tweet. I only mentioned the journalist comment, which there is more information an nuance to it than you allow for.
But you assume because I say one thing I must be your enemy. You call me names. You refer to me as a group instead of a person.
So clearly you are an island to yourself. I hope your relationships in real life are far more fruitful.
What you mean? You do realise most of us degoogle to get away from American grasp on technology, what’s the purpose of switching to Proton if there’s services even more independent?
The problem is I have been using proton for years and I have 385 entries so switching to say Tuta would be a drag (unless there is an option to migrate, I haven’t checked) Proton IIRC is also the cheaper of the two. Or would you say I should suck it up and make the switch?
I’m not sure, does managing two email accounts would be difficult for you? It wouldn’t be too bad having one extra, having some accounts on a different mail might work for you, if one gets hacked you don’t lose access to everything right away.
Also you don’t have to migrate all the entries right away, you can always just make new accounts on a new email provider, and if you do use password expiry in your pw manager you can migrate emails right then
My take is that Proton CEO Andy Yen’s pro-Trump comments were born out of naïvety, not the same mindset that plagues tech CEOs in the US. Combining that with Proton’s benign actions since then, I think it’s a good time to diversify, become familiar with alternatives like Tuta as you say, and make a backup plan should they enshittify, but don’t rush to jump ship now.
I mean bro, they aren’t really defending Proton here but rather they are calling out childish behaviour. Since why should I be downvoted for using an app? I didn’t even know Proton was so controversial up until now
Just because you don’t agree to something doesn’t mean you should try to make it unpleasant for the other person, you could of just called out Proton without encouraging people to grief me
Great, hating on people because they don’t know something is surely the right thing to do. Just like how people beat children for making mistakes, they need to learn the hard way right?
I meant that this is the Achilles heels. A lot of us have it. It has the meta AI on it that we can’t deactivated. It is EEE and GoS does a good job isolating it but still a non privacy app.
Only one: ditch that crap named Proton.
Bring the downvotes bots 🤣
I mean isn’t proton recommended on privacyguides? Do you think they need to update it?
Privacy guides recommends Brave. I’ve said enough.
What’s wrong with brave? I didn’t like the crypto feature but I got the impression that it’s a good privacy browser for people that need syncing
Do your own research, this is the most useful thing I can tell you and it applies to anything.
Yes that is correct, I just wanted to hear what people on Lemmy have to say
Brave, like Proton, has a lot of fanboys (assuming they aren’t bots) that blatantly ignore key informations about the companies of said products.
In this kind of scenario resorting to your own independent search is the only thing you can do.
I’m too far gone
It looks like protonpass, OP uses mullvad instead.
Is the controversy about the VPN?
Uhhh why?
Goldfish memory? It was one of the biggest things on lemmy
https://lemmy.world/post/24301835
Proton ceo not politically neutral as he advertised
And they recently were caught in the “accidental” suspension of the accounts of two journalists.
There has been enough information released to essentially debunk the connotation you are implying.
Did the CEO tweet in support to Trump administration? Yes he did!
Did two journalists have their accounts suspended after external pressure? Yes they did!
Debunk this, fanboy!
As I have said already to another of yours, time will tell if I was too cautious or you were a fool.
I didn’t say anything about the Trump tweet. I only mentioned the journalist comment, which there is more information an nuance to it than you allow for.
But you assume because I say one thing I must be your enemy. You call me names. You refer to me as a group instead of a person.
So clearly you are an island to yourself. I hope your relationships in real life are far more fruitful.
Don’t cry, we are just having fun here.
It would have been helpful to explain why, whether that’s privacy, ethical, or political concerns.
But maybe the use of “🤣” says it all
Yep, says it all about you fanboys 🤣
Ceo of Proton is a huge Republican fan, that might deter some people. Are you not interested in this?
https://lemmy.world/post/24301835
Not this shit again.
What you mean? You do realise most of us degoogle to get away from American grasp on technology, what’s the purpose of switching to Proton if there’s services even more independent?
The problem is I have been using proton for years and I have 385 entries so switching to say Tuta would be a drag (unless there is an option to migrate, I haven’t checked) Proton IIRC is also the cheaper of the two. Or would you say I should suck it up and make the switch?
After thinking some more this mindset is not good at all. If everyone becomes complacent due to habit and convenience that would be bad
I’m not sure, does managing two email accounts would be difficult for you? It wouldn’t be too bad having one extra, having some accounts on a different mail might work for you, if one gets hacked you don’t lose access to everything right away. Also you don’t have to migrate all the entries right away, you can always just make new accounts on a new email provider, and if you do use password expiry in your pw manager you can migrate emails right then
I would be in the loop, but not necessarily OP. I am calling out OC to defend their suggestion with more than a simple accusation.
As a looped in person. Do you think I should stick to Proton for less hassle (migration) or is moving to Tuta for example the right move currently?
My take is that Proton CEO Andy Yen’s pro-Trump comments were born out of naïvety, not the same mindset that plagues tech CEOs in the US. Combining that with Proton’s benign actions since then, I think it’s a good time to diversify, become familiar with alternatives like Tuta as you say, and make a backup plan should they enshittify, but don’t rush to jump ship now.
You are indeed correct, I’m not the type currently to stay up to date on news
And calling “bot” anyone who disagrees. Peak Reddit behaviour.
The peak Reddit behavior is the squadrons defending that crap 😂
I mean bro, they aren’t really defending Proton here but rather they are calling out childish behaviour. Since why should I be downvoted for using an app? I didn’t even know Proton was so controversial up until now
“Childish behavior” is calling out a “privacy” company that does questionable stuff.
Noted.
Real mature bro, ignore my constructive criticism and just downvote me like a bot. You really are something
Don’t post your setup if you can’t stand criticism 😂
Yeah “criticism” = “Bring the downvote bots” you really like living in a delusion I see
Just because you don’t agree to something doesn’t mean you should try to make it unpleasant for the other person, you could of just called out Proton without encouraging people to grief me
AHAHAHAHAHAH
Don’t cry bro, I only told you to ditch an untrustable company which at first supported Trump and then was called out for silencing journalists.
I am 100% going to make it unpleasant for all who still use it, especially if they seem to care about privacy.
Great, hating on people because they don’t know something is surely the right thing to do. Just like how people beat children for making mistakes, they need to learn the hard way right?
My man, you are twisting my words, I was very clear about what I considered childish
Like I already said this isn’t about any company but rather encouraging griefing
Also ditch WhatsApp.
I wish
You mean the Kryptonite? That is what kills a lot of privacy setups.
Can you elaborate? From what I understand GOS does a good job at isolation. But I might just create a separate proprietary profile
I meant that this is the Achilles heels. A lot of us have it. It has the meta AI on it that we can’t deactivated. It is EEE and GoS does a good job isolating it but still a non privacy app.